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Showing posts with label Freestyle Seminar. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Freestyle Seminar. Show all posts

Monday, July 22, 2013

Seminar and Public Dog (13)

We had a two day seminar this weekend in Corvallis Oregon.  I drove down Friday and came back Sunday night. 
 
Debbi Decker was fun, nice and entertaining.  That day was mostly about clever ways to teach tricks, though nothing really "exciting" (I'll describe them in the blog).  She relies a LOT on luring, which isn't my favorite way to teach things and not as useful for Gimme.  Kris Hurley on Sunday was all about Mental Management ("With Winning in Mind", Lanny Bassham), though that was only mentioned in passing in the seminar promotion materials.  She's about to become a certified MM instructor.  There were no exercises with the dogs - or even with people, even though it was advertised as a working seminar for people.  I guess she thinks a 6.5 hour "discussion" qualifies as a working seminar.  It was okay, but I wouldn't pay money for her again.
 
It worked out great for us because the seminar was in Julie's new building with 5000 sq ft usable floor space. Early sessions only had 5 dogs out at a time.  I used wire guides to make a reminder barrier, so that other teams wouldn't unintentionally encroach on our corner.  Also, I told the instructor we'd signed up for a working slot when Gimme was doing much better, about our recent regression, and to please look for us in the far corner.
 
We started the day by walking the grounds and coming in before others arrived to work on focus. She wasn't worried - just distracted. So I worked with her until I was getting good check-ins and cue responsiveness.
 
During the seminar, Debbi came to us last for each session, by which time I had already done a lot of "whazzat", so Gimme was focused and working.  Debbi was really impressed with how smart Gimme is and had a lot of nice things to say about her, calling her "exciting" and "gorgeous".
 
For the 3rd and 4th sessions, there were 8-10 teams on the floor and Gimme  was still able to work nicely.  It was a little harder for her, so I made it a point to cue "pretty" (a sit up "pretty", as opposed to stand up "dance") and then rewarded her with PB.  I've been using the PB to get her to hold the position with the intention of building her core strength.  With regular treats its hard to dole them out smoothly and she has a greater tendency to try and grab my hand with her paws to steady herself.  Plus she's not as inclined to work hard like she will for PB.  So in this case I was able to get two benefits from it.
 
During one of our sessions in the building we were doing LAT and I noticed that Gimme had stopped turning her head all the way to look at the dogs when I cued "whazzat". Basically she was looking at the wall behind and to my right and then looking at me. I immediately thought someone was *sneaking* up from that side and turned to look. Instead I discovered my little canine genius was using a wall mirror and dog reflections to play LAT.  She's always been fascinated by mirrors and particularly likes to pose in front of them and admire her lovely self. She'll even turn so she can admire the other side of her lovely self. So she obviously knows what they do - I just never thought she'd be aware enough conceptually to use them in that way.
 
We skipped one session because I found her sound asleep and I didn't have the heart to wake her. Then for the last session when I brought her in, she wasn't nearly as focused. A couple of teams were close... though not any more than had already happened. I saw her getting stuck and even with helping her get unstuck, she couldn't work for the cheese. So I worked through her slow and minimal behaviors to a known cue until I got a good response and then rewarded with peanut butter. Cued it again, got a faster and better response and I rewarded her heavily and headed back to the car.  It was particularly helpful for me to have looked at the descriptions in what I was writing and to distil it down to a short list of clues that she was reaching her limits.  Having just done that, when I saw two things from the list, I immediately recognized it and changed gears. 
 
One thing I noticed when she was getting a little stuck was that when I touched her she didn't turn to me right away. She's so tactile and normally responds to any touch by turning to see what she can get from it. So, I decided to play with that during class today, where she was immediately responsive to it every time (even for the poodle - see below).  I will try it in other situations to see if its consistent that she doesn't respond quickly when she's concerned.  If so, it may be an easy "test" for when I suspect the environment is getting to her and before it other clues become evident. 
 
In hindsight I should have let her take the rest of Saturday off when she slept through me walking up to the car the first time (she's "psychic" and usually wakes up when I even *think* about getting her). Still I found it encouraging that she was able to work through it...
 
Interestingly, after noticing the difference in her evening behaviors last week... Friday night when we arrived at Motel 6, she was calm and barely noticed the motel noises. She'd lift her head and softly wuffed once or twice. On Saturday, she was much edgier and barked several times. I went to bed leaving the TV on to obscure much of the hotel noises, turning it off at 3am. So I think evening behavior will be a consistent after-the-fact assessment of how well I managed her exposure during the day. 
 
On Saturday night when Gimme was alerting to motel noises with alarm barking...  one of the times I said "what's that" after she bounded off the bed to the door.  Instead of continuing to bark as I tried to cajole her to stop (as I had the other times), she immediately ran to me with a change of attitude, thinking I'd cued "whazzat" (which is why I picked that cue). It worked in the morning too...
 
I got "Through A Dog's Ear" CDs from the library and thank God I did instead of spending money on them.   For one thing, I didn't notice any measurable improvement for Gimme.  And equally important, I found them intensely annoying. I kept waiting for the next note and it was like Chinese Water Torture, just exhausting...  I may consider getting a white noise machine or a small CD player and some white noise type CDs, for when we travel.  And could use it here at home when she's had a stressful day.
 
For today's class, she did pretty well.   We were in the park, so it was easy to move around and use space effectively.  She was whining a lot, but I took it more that she was wanting to be "doing" something rather than stressed.  This class tends to include a fair amount of standing around and that frustrates her.  Once we started really working the dogs, then she got quiet and worked well.  I did notice that she often was watching the dog that came late (small poodle) keeping one eye on it almost the whole time.  The poodle did look in our direction a fair amount, so that could have been part of it - it could also be sudden environmental change, because of them joining our group so late.  She responded instantly every time I touched her, so I'll watch to see if that turns out to be a good test for us. 
 
Ursula saw her flirting with Tor (Alaskan Malamute) and she has always been more comfortable with him.  So Frank and I are going to try to get together to go walking together, maybe Friday.  She needs more opportunities to walk with dogs that are well behaved.

For class on Thursdays (and all classes in the building) I have pretty much decided to continue grabbing the area that has the the only separate door to the outside. I'll also take the expen and stretch it around our space, enclosing the door. I can park my car right outside the door, backing in, so I can use it as a station as well as having her matt inside.  There are also visual dividers that I can set up as needed.  My initial approach was to start in the building and then leave for breaks... but that didn't seem to work well enough. So now I'm going to flip that and work outside and then dip in for short times, building up from there. Which of course, in hindsight makes perfect sense. Far better to start from a calm place and add small amounts of challenge than to start in a pressured place and try to relieve it. Duhhh...
 
Also I've been thinking I should try DAP again and see if its beneficial.  I tried it and it didn't work when I was trying to solve her car whining, back when I thought it was a stress issue.  Perhaps that wasn't a fair test, since I later realized its anticipatory whining, which is a rather different thing.

Monday, April 16, 2012

Pouliot Seminar

Another great day.  Michele Pouliot is amazing.  If you have any interest in freestyle, she is definitely the person you want to spend your money seeing.  Her routines are so creative - it just amazes me how she thinks and comes up with stuff.  Her approach to teaching things is also very creative.  What a day.

And to make it even better, Gimme had another great day.  She did very well on all her work sessions.  The morning wasn't as good as it started yesterday, but then when I simplified and made it easier for her, she really got into what we were doing.  I was very pleased with her focus and attitude. 

Again at lunch we did a long session of playing look-at-that so she could just look at the things that distract her and get it out of her system.  So in the afternoon the first two sessions were really good.  She was very focused and working very hard.  There we are working just twenty five feet from the nearest dog team - and there were a dozen of them. 

I was so thrilled with how she did this weekend... with just a little bit of CU work, she was able to mostly ignore the other dogs.  Not ignore as in compelled to ignore, rather ignore as in not really interested in them, preferring to win treats from me.  That is a very huge milestone.

During the last session of the day she didn't do well.  She was well-behaved, just unable to focus.  That's understandable - there were a LOT of the teams that were pretty wiped out by then.  So I just made it all about rewarding any effort to keep her attention on me, which was about all she was up for.  I was very liberal with the treats, so it was a good experience for her, even if we didn't accomplish anything in terms of what the session was for.

When we got home she just crashed for the evening.  Today we had a nice shaping session and has been crashed ever since then.  Tomorrow we'll get to walk on the fort, so that will be nice for both of us.

BTW I met another lady with a Papillion that is working the CU stuff.  Both she and her dog were nice.  The dog was doing really well handling the distraction.  "Control Unleashed" works and I highly recommend it. 

Monday, November 7, 2011

Freestyle Seminar

The weekend proved to be a real learning experience and not just about freestyle.  I learned just how much seminar excitement Gimme can handle and what the best way is for her to experience it.  After how well she did at the agility seminar this summer, I expected her to be able to handle this better.  But in hindsight, there are several notable differences.
  • agility seminar was outside, this was inside
  • at agility seminar I was able to position us further from the other people/dogs and still be able to see and hear everything that was going on
  • about a dozen teams at agility vs 20 teams and 10 more auditors at the freestyle seminar
  • at agility only one or two dogs were out of crates at a time; here there were often all 20 teams out at once
  • agility seminar was quieter overall
  • this weekend she was in season - obviously not by plan, having come in almost a month early
By the end of Saturday Gimme was just about shut down.  I had tried hard to keep her up and happy, but it wasn't working well.  I made big changes in how I handled things for Sunday and it worked much better.  At the end of Saturday I was about ready to cancel our working slots for the seminar in April.  At the end of Sunday, with the changes I made she did much better, so knowing that she won't be in season again, I decided to let things stand.  However, I do plan to email both seminar presenters (Sdao and Pouliot) and ask them some questions before I make a final decision.

I was really disappointed in the people attending this seminar.  Many years ago when I was taking Michael to freestyle seminars, people were much more respectful of others' space needs.  Most people back then were fairly novice dog owners, whereas this group was more experienced owners.  I asked the seminar host to make an announcement and remind people to be more respectful of other dog's space needs, but it didn't seem to make any impression.  I repeatedly asked people to keep their distance and not crowd us.  Only two people got the idea that I was asking for consideration for the weekend, not just a few minutes.  Other people I had to remind over and over and over again.  I asked one lady to move herself and her dog so we could get to our crate, explaining that we needed more space.  She moved and then moments later walked her dog within inches of my crate with Gimme in it.  Fortunately I happened to have Gimme distracted at that moment.  I really had the best spot that was available - had anyone shown even a smidgen of common sense and courtesy. 

Naturally I think the person who allowed their dog to pee on my cooler, which was sitting next to my car -- well that's just well beyond R-U-D-E...

I chose to work off to one side during the working sessions and gradually got further and further away until I could find a place where Gimme wasn't too distracted by the other dogs and yet not too close to the food tables, which she also had a huge interest in.  Unfortunately this meant we got ZERO personal attention from the seminar presenter, Julie Flanery.  Ordinarily I think Julie is very good, but a couple things conspired to make this one the least positive experiences of the several seminars I've taken with her.  The fact that the seminar was being taped made it a logistical pain.  Also almost all the exercises for the second day were geared toward people with much more experienced dogs.  Since that wasn't made clear in the information about the seminar (and since I expected her to run the seminar as she had in prior ones), I don't think we got our money's worth as a working team. 

Since I'd paid to be a working team, I made the best of it.  I worked on as many of the exercises that we were supposed to be doing as I could.  But once I hit a snag, without any help, I couldn't go any further.  I learned between day one and two a bit better how to "read" Gimme and know when she is done.  She is not obvious in the way she shows it (remember what we went through when we were taking classes with Ursula and she had the false pregnancy to go through).  For much of the time we worked on other things, things I knew Gimme could do getting a high rate of reinforcement, so she was having a positive experience.  On the second day I kept her out in the car when she wasn't working, except for one brief time in late in the afternoon.  Often this meant by the time I went out to the car, got her "dressed" and got back inside, the working session was half over. 

Still, for all that, I learned a lot.  Julie has some interesting new ways to teach the freestyle staples in ways that the dog learns very quickly and so can get a higher rate of reinforcement while they are learning.  She makes these "guides" out of ten 12" x 12" grids (the ones you normally snap together to make little shelving sets), put together with zip ties.  Using those the dogs learn some really quick concepts, so you aren't teaching the same thing over and over, just using a different "prop".

For instance, if you set up the guides to form a circle and stand in the middle with the dog, you can just wait and the dog will move around you.  Click and treat that and soon the dog will really be going around.  Within two or three sessions you'll have a very solid behavior that you can put on cue.  Then you can do it again, but position the dog facing the other way and since the dog already knows the concept of moving in that circle of guides, you can get the other direction on cue even faster.  Then there is always backing up in each direction.  You can stand outside the circle with just one leg in and the dog will quickly figure out to move around that one leg.  Or stand outside the circle with a cane held in the middle of the guides and in no time you'll have the dog going around that too.  As you can imagine, there are any number of things you could teach the dog to go around in very short order.  Develop a routine that has a prop you need the dog to go out to and circle around - no problem, you can teach the concept to your now more experienced dog in a single session and that's likely including a cue. 

The beauty of this is that there is no luring that has to be faded later and its faster than free-shaping, because the dog learns that the guides in a circle mean one thing.  And in particular, for getting the dog to move around one leg, since you aren't luring or using your hand target, you aren't leaning over the dog, which means you aren't crowding them socially while trying to teach them something.  The guides can also be used to form a channel, a u-shape or a v-shape and any number of other configurations (limited only by your own creativity).

We did our session at the seminar in a 36" expen, since I wanted to be able to have Gimme off leash and know she wouldn't jump out.  Here I have a short video of a session that we just did with the set of guides I made.  You'll see that Gimme jumped in and out a couple of times.  I think she felt crowded because I hadn't made her circle big enough.  You'll see that she stopped jumping out and was more conformable moving around after I make the circle a little bigger.  She even tried backing up, she does love moving backwards.  To stop her all I had to do was briefly step back so I was in her way.  Sadly the camera battery died so you don't get to see the end of the session.  Another thirty seconds and she was going around me in one direction while I was spinning the other way.  It never occurred to her that there was anything for her to do other than continuing in a circle, something that often happens when you try to teach this part of the move without the guides. 


Gimme already knows "around", but its not very tight.  So I'll be interested to see if using the guides makes it a cleaner move.